CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? CINDY: Um I think it was around six. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. One of my greatest aspirations is to change the entire industry, creating a space that embraces the full range of potential and diversity that humans bring.. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: Yes. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? CINDY: Im positive. Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. Hudgens: Its important for me because its easy for people to make snap judgments about young women in her position. Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. CINDY: They were a dark brown. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. It had a long barrel. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. And he had called me and I slept through it. And he suggested that we could go to his place. Hudgens: It depended on the scene. And I was just running. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. Apparently youre bothered by this? ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. CINDY: The automatic opener. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. FLOTHE: You drove past the house? CINDY: OK. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. CINDY: Yep. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. What made you want to do it? Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. FLOTHE: How did you know this? CINDY: They look the same. Glenn Flothe, AST. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. Thats not all he said, of course. Yes, Cindy Paulson is a real person, and as shown in the movie, she was one of the many women who were abducted by Robert Hansen. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. CINDY: It wasnt painted. It was super fun and really quick. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money And he contacts you. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. FLOTHE: Like this? Your email address will not be published. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. Required fields are marked *. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Sometime between 71 to 73 Robert began to murder young women. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. FLOTHE: And about what time was that? FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. Way down on the floor. CINDY: Uh huh. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. (pause) Glenn Flothe, AST. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? Your email address will not be published. Cindy coughs.) So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? Four door. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. To the left is the basement. CINDY: All right. Learn how your comment data is processed. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. Flothe said. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. CINDY: Uh huh. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. It had never crossed her mind. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. CINDY: In jeans. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. If youre very sensitive to that sort of thing (I know that much of my audience is ) then you may wish to skip this one. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. Hudgens: That was great. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. I always wanted to do dramas. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. (crying) In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. When will it be released? CINDY: Yep. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! The identity of one of his victims, who was found near Horseshoe lake north of Anchorage has never been established and now her remains are being exhumed. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? FLOTHE: In your face? (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? CINDY: Same. I operated behind a work persona. CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. He was also an avid hunter. A woman accused Hansen of rape in 1971, even as he awaited trial in a separate incident for following a stranger to her Spenard home and trying to kidnap her at gunpoint, according to Anchorage Daily News reports at the time. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. My left wrist, right there We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Dont worry. He was right to worry, state officials later said. Others have never been found. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. 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